I read a fanfic (unfortunately I can't remember which one) where Hank Pym had been diagnosed as bipolar. Do you know if that diagnosis canon? Based on what I've read about Hank Pym (I read comic wikis not comic themselves, they're just not my favorite format.) and the research I've done on Bipolar Disorder as well as my own experiences, if he is canonically bipolar he's one of the best representations of it I've seen in a mainstream media format.
Hank Pym was canonically recognized as bipolar in Avengers AI, which is a fantastic little run for a couple of reasons:
A. I could tolerate Hank Pym for whole chunks of time which had never happened before.
B. Diverse cast, and a pretty neat thread running through the run.
C. Art drawn in a realistic manner! The ladies are presented in a variety of sizes and shapes and never have to sacrifice their internal organs or human dignity to be awesome, in a variety of ways!
D. DOOMBOT. No, seriously. DOOMBOT. Enjoy a malfunctioning disembodied Doombot head threatening the Jefferson Memorial. It’s canon.
E. BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS BOTS (rolls around in bots) SO MANY BOTS AND I LOVE THEM ALL SO MUCH.
i do appreciate the writing and the use of the various characters. And while I agree, it makes sense in retrospect, but I highly doubt that earlier writers of Hank Pym intended to portray him as affected by bi-polar disorder. So while I think it fits his established canon very well, and Avengers AI deals with it in a FANTASTIC manner, I kind of hate this kind of ‘so the reason for everything is THIS PREVIOUSLY UNDISCLOSED THING.’
Yes, many neurologically atypical people, and people who suffer and survive mental illness go without proper diagnosis for years, even decades, so in that way it is a bit realistic. But then again, with the ‘soap opera’ level of plot that comics have to deal with, it feels a bit like them trying to handle a lot of problematic things that Hank has done by waving a flag that says “You can’t blame him anymore!”
And wow, we’ve heard that a lot for white guys who do problematic things, haven’t we? No one else seems to get that little out. But when problematic things happen to white, straight, male characters, and an author wants to make them sympathetic again, it feels like the ‘mental illness’ card gets played a lot. Because we can’t be mad at the horrid things that Hank has done, see, he was SICK.
I’m not interested in that. I’m interested in human beings who make bad choices, who make mistakes, who have to deal with the consequences of these mistakes. Who deal with their issues, maybe not always deal WELL with their issues, but attempt to deal with them.
So I think how this shakes out, for me, depends on who gets to write Hank next. In the hands of a good writer, this could allow him to grow and deal with a lot of things. He’s popped up in She-Hulk, and I’ve loved the cameo. However, in the hands of a bad writer, I suspect it could end up being Round 374 of “Hank Pym’s Life is SO HARD Guys!”
Your milage may vary, but consider giving Avengers AI a try, guy, some parts of it was fantastic fun. Even the parts with Hank Pym!
-Fanfuckingtastical Fictional Goddess of Writing Things That I Wish Were Actual Books
-Pi. Or 22/7
-Roomba. Just Roomba.
-Great and Powerful Roomba Overlord
-She who so totally could demand pie from her followers and from her position in a bank plan to switch boston to a pie based economy
-General Scarper, the Third
-the Queen of the Toaster Army, or the Toasted Queen for short (and thank you for the nice words!)
-fairy godmother of feels and happiness
-EGBOKIP (For my reassurance of, “Everything’s gonna be O.K., I promise”)
-Scipiegrl, Toasterdoodle and Roomba Ruler
-toaster goddess; queen of crackangstfluff
-Queen of Bot Feels
-The Queen of Flightless Birds
-Heart Slayer (cause your fics slay me with FEEEEEELS)
-Creative Goddess and Writing Inspiration. Also She Who Is Sorry About Her Cat
-Queen of the Roombas!
-Purveyor of Fine Fic. Supreme Overlord. Calcifer’s Mum.
-Her Grace. An excellent nickname for any occasion.
And perhaps the best one:
-The Beyonce of Stony
Not so much because I think I have ANYTHING in common with Queen Beyonce, but rather, I am amused by the idea of her talking to Steve and Tony. No way she wouldn’t have shown up at one of Tony’s parties eventually and then someone tells her about Tony teaching a race of aliens the “Single Ladies” dance and then Tony has to have someone killed because they just EMBARRASSED HIM IN FRONT OF BEYONCE.
Kind of related to the last question, are Tony and Steve out to the media and general public yet? Is that something you plan to write or something that has happened/will happen behind the scenes? And this is mostly for Toasterverse but I'm curious about it for botverse too :)
Yes, to both.
I am walking a fine line here, and I know it. Honestly, I like to create a safe space, where people have the lives and respect and parity that they deserve to have, at all time, for all people.
However, I’m well aware that for a large number of people, their lives are not fair. Society is not fair. People are not fair. People deal with a thousand, a million micro aggressions every day, pin-pricks of things that remind them that there is no equality, that life is not fair, and that there are people who consider them ‘less’ for the crime of existing. For not being ashamed of themselves, for not hiding who they are, what makes them the people that they are.
Reality is ugly. And unfair. And it cannot be ignored. To ignore it, to pretend that it doesn’t exist, just contributes to a world where it is OKAY FOR SOCIETY TO DO THAT.
So I tread very lightly, because I am aware that I am on dangerous ground. Perhaps I worry too much, but there are enough bad messages out there. I don’t want to be one of them. There is a specific ‘coming out’ story that’s still in my WIP folder, and I hope that I’ll do it justice soon. 8)
Now that Steve and Tony are openly dating, have the protocols for Tony going Supervillain (mentioned in Ordinary Workplace Hazards) changed? Do they have a contingency plan in place for if Steve and Tony break up and Tony snaps and goes villain? Or are they going with what I call the "Coulson Protocols" in my head where they assume Steve will keep him from destroying the world? I know my headcanons but I have a mighty need to know the truth. Love your work, you're amazing.
I think the plan was always for Steve to stand there looking disapproving and basically say, “If you’re going to be mean to people, then we CAN’T BE FRIENDS, Tony Stark!”
The assumption that such kindergarten tactics would work on Tony is probably correct. Rhodey and Pepper have been doing basically the same goddamn thing for the last couple of decades, and it’s kept him from going off a cliff.
I’m actually more concerned about what they’ll do if Steve goes evil. 8)
one day, we should get a pie at petsi pies in cambridge and then we could split it because I also never make it all the way thrugh a pie on my own but i bet we could make it through a pie together. #friendship
Nakki, I am legit almost crying at now knowing this place exists. We can bring Kate. She is small, but wily around baked goods, and then the pie shall be easily defeated!
So the whole trading of friends at the Aquarium sounds like it has a basis in a real story.... Though that may be because it sounds like something I would have done at that age, not sure.
I had the reputation in my family of ‘wandering off.’
This was a blatant level of revisionist history on the part of my parents. It was not that I wandered off. It was that I would remain in a location and everyone else would leave, off to the next thing, unaware that they were now short one child. Upon discovering they were missing me, they would simply retrace their steps and locate me, sometimes in exactly the same spot.
If something interested me, I pretty much was capable of ignoring anything and everything else that happened around me. 8)
Out of curiosity, in Fairytales and Clockwork Hearts, Dummy mentions to Val and Franklin in chapter 2 that Lucy doesn't remember him. That seems to come up a couple times. Is that at all significant, or just a turn of phrase?
It is significant.
As is the song that Rahne is singing while they’re doing the waltz lesson.
This entire story is a series of fairy tale tropes, and DJ is, in his own way, an enchanted prince in topmost room the tallest tower, hidden away.
Which makes Lucy a bit of a knight in shining armor, I think. 8)
I just discovered Izzy from the Hawkeye and Anklebiter series by copperbadge thanks to your amazing fic of her and DJ. Those two absolutely need to spend more time together and I would love to see what would happen if Tony were the one to take the two of them out for a day. Or maybe Steve? All I know is that those two should be the best of friends and I need more of them in my life.
For followers here on Tumblr, you will notice the Avengers/PacRim fusion piece is missing from its published order. This is still growing, and will be put up as its own file when I’ve done a bit more of it, but right now, it’s barely an intro. 8)
do you realize what this means?: you are possibly the only writer in the history of this world who could produce stories for people and get paid *only in pie* for the rest of your days, if you wanted. guinness world record for the most words exchanged for pie. fame and pie-fortune awaiting you. people are willing. fandom is amazing.
I think the fandom would die down at some point and my landlord, while having a serious sweet tooth, would probably demand my rent in something other than delicious baked goods.
Probably. He’s pretty easily manipulated by sugar.
So if I mailed you even a PICTURE of a pie I could get a fanfic? Would that count? Or would you prefer real pie?
These prompts were taken to aid someone with a rather urgent need. While I was grateful that so many people stepped up and helped, it’s taken me more than a month to get through what I promised to do, and I still have two more to finish.
I tend to not deal well with the following:
C. Having to please someone else (though every single prompter was seriously SO SWEET about what I managed to produce, it’s still nerve wracking to think that I had to satisfy a specific request, because I don’t consider myself particularly good at it)
So as you might imagine, this was a bit of a trial for me. I think I’m better for having done it, and I enjoyed a lot of it, especially writing things I might never have written otherwise, and seeing the real affection that people had for my characters and concepts. When I said, “you pick,” I did not expect the wide variety of prompts that I got, nor the number that featured side characters, or my own OCs.
So I’m really grateful for everyone who helped out, and the ones who spread the word, and the ones that cheered me on. That being said, I cannot see me taking prompts again, not for quite some time. 8)
Just out of curiosity, did DJ get the tugging-the-hem-of-his-shirt thing from Bruce? ps. I wish I could give you 3000 more kudos on AO3. Thank you! <3
DJ has a complicated relationship with touch. In his bot form, he has protocols that block him from most direct contact because he has the potential to really hurt a squishy human type person. He’s always, even as a bot, snagged clothing as opposed to the person wearing it, with a few exceptions.
Even though DJ does not have Dummy’s programming, elements of it still remain, and he really likes contact, but that contact is almost initiated by the other person. When he becomes stressed or frustrated, he busies his hands with something he can control and cannot hurt, which is, well, his own clothing. It’s a tactile thing, and a control thing.
He didn’t get it from Bruce, but he does it for similar sorts of reasons.
We know that when Dummy/DJ is turned human he is around 4 but how old would Jarvis be is he was hit with the spell? Or any of the other bots or (mixing universes) the roombas or the toaster? Sorry if this has been asked before but I was wondering about the bots ages and if they would all be the same gender as Tony or not.
The original intent of the spell is to get Tony emotionally invested. Because of that, whatever it hit, for the most part, would probably have ended up around similar to DJ. The spell ended up on DJ because, well, we’ll go into that during “Fairy Tales and Clockwork Hearts,” where spells begin to break.
I was just re-reading Prompts for Pie and I was wondering: does Darcy ever get insecure that Harris doesn't seem to take her flirting seriously or is she just confident that eventually they'll end up on the same wave length?
I like to write Darcy as someone who does her own thing and go her own way, and if you’re on board with that, awesome happy funtimes. If you’re not, well, then, meh to you. If Harris flat out told her that he wasn’t interested, or was uncomfortable, or wanted her to stop, she would. But she likes flirting with him because it’s fun, and because she does like him. The fact that he hasn’t reciprocated, or hasn’t reciprocated in the same way, doesn’t change her enjoyment of the situation.
She’s doing it because it’s something she likes to do, that feels right, and as long as Harris doesn’t mind, she’s gonna keep right on doing it. 8)
(For tehnakki, who wanted DJ and Izzy. She wanted them exploring the Tower and I FORGOT THAT PART, so I’ll have to write her a sequel. Because I suck. Izzy is on loan from Copperbadge’s excellent Anklebiter series, used with permission and safely returned.))
“Penguins, penguins, penguins, penguins-”
“Breathe, Izzy,” Clint mumbled, one hand fumbling for his coffee. “It’s too early and Poppa’s too asleep for this right now.”
She sucked in a long, audible breath. Held it, her eyes huge in her face. “PENGUINS,” she said on a massive exhale.
Phil chuckled, and Clint hid a smile behind his coffee cup. “I think she wants to see the penguins,” Phil said, flipping a pancake with an easy hand.
“Ya think?” Clint said, yawning. He scrubbed a hand over his face. “Ready for the aquarium, Busy-Izzy?”
She stared him down, her eyes narrowed. “Penguins,” she said, her tone full of awe.
“How many pancakes can you eat, Izzy?” Phil asked, plating the first batch.
“Seventeen,” she said.
“Seventeen.” Clint propped his cheek on his fist. “Really. Seventeen pancakes.”
“Yes. Wait!” She twisted around in her chair, her legs bouncing in the air. “Phil, do I get to use the Dora plate?”
“Sorry, it’s in the dishwasher,” Phil said. He set two pancakes in front of her. “You’re going to have to make do with the happy robot plate.”
“Then I can eat fourteen,” Izzy told Clint.
“Makes sense,” Clint said, because Izzy logic was the best logic, and he wasn’t even going to pretend otherwise.
Yes , let’s address the negative representation of POC and female characters by hiding under a deluge of comics and pretending that racism and sexism doesn’t exist in the fandom.
Wow. Aren’t you just a fun one to have around?
The medium is problematic, and nothing about this is attempting to cover that up. What it is attempting to do is steer people, perhaps new readers, towards things that bring them joy, possibly, oh, I don’t know, by being positive and healthy representations of heroes for all readers.
Maybe this was about saying, “Hey, here’s a GOOD comic to read if you love Sam Wilson in Cap 2!” or “Here’s a writer that treats sensitive issues with care and compassion!” or even, I don’t know, “Here’s a comic that brought me joy, that reminds me why I can still call myself a comic fan even though so much of this stuff wears me down and dehumanizes me and makes me wonder why I bother trying!”
No one is ‘hiding’ anything. No one is ‘pretending’ anything.
PEOPLE CAN LIKE PROBLEMATIC THINGS AND STILL ACKNOWLEDGE THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC.
But honestly? Disowning all comics, as a medium, because some of them, and a lot of the people that like them, are utter trash is like saying that I can’t like any movies because the Hollywood studio system is WICKED racist, sexist, and a lot of people glorify bad movies that continue to prop up that system.
Call out the bad, but celebrate the good, and if you can’t, stay out of the way of the people who are trying to make sure that decent writers, artists, editors, inkers, and colorists will gain a following and be able to make a living from doing wha they love.
(So in Grumpycake’s stream the other day we brought up adorable things. ADORABLE THINGS. So this one’s for her.)
“I’d like to point out that I wanted to take the mission in Fiji.”
Clint gritted his teeth as another gust of icy wind sliced at them, finding every gap, every seam, every weak spot in his gear. “Why didn’t we take the mission in Fiji, sir?”
Phil shifted against him, and Clint knew he was trying to find some angle that allowed him to get between Clint and the wind. It was impossible, and stupid, and he wasn’t sure that Phil knew he was doing it, but Clint grinned behind the protection of his balaclava. “Because you are not a nuclear physicist and my Latvarian is lousy,” he said, crisp as ever over the comms. “We would have died.”
“We’re going to die here, sir,” Clint pointed out, amused. “At least in Fiji we would’ve died warm and possibly naked.”
Sci, random question: have you seen Guardians of the Galaxy? And what do you think of it? Do you think you will write about it?
I have, and I enjoyed it! But I consider it the ‘backwards ball cap wearing dudebro’ Marvel movie, fun to watch, but it’s not really my type? If that makes sense? I loved elements of it, and I was really disappointed by other parts of it. I’m glad that Marvel is opening up their verse to bigger and better stories, but knowing we’ll get a sequel to this, and another installment of “Sainted Dead Mother and Asshole Father White Boy Angst” (no, seriously, how many freakin’ people in MCU does that cover, really, OH MY GOD) before we’ll get a movie headed by a POC or a woman is just a little wearing.
It was a popcorn movie! I enjoyed it while I was watching it, and the further I get away from it, the more I’m like, “Hey, that was fun, but whatever.” I can’t see myself writing for it, or for any of the characters, except maybe Nebula or Gamora showing up without their assorted ‘troubled ones.’
Sif turned, just a bit, just enough to glance over her shoulder. Darcy was standing there, bundled heavily in a winter coat and a winter hat with extra bits that hung down to cover her ears. Her dark hair, caught by the wind, curled around her shoulders and whipped through the air. Her nose and cheeks were bright red. Sif smiled down at her. “Hello, little one,” she said, reaching out with one finger to tap the tip of Darcy’s nose.
Darcy’s nose wrinkled up. “Heeeeeey,” she whined, but her teeth flashed, bright and white. She held up a sweatshirt. “I brought you something. So you don’t freeze.”
“I am comfortable enough,” Sif said, but she took it anyway. “You look like a well-stuffed toy.”
Darcy held her arms out to the sides, which only exaggerated the roundness of her coat. “Down coats are the absolute best. She nodded at the sweatshirt. “I got it for you.”
Sif held it up. The fabric was a mix of colors, waves and spots, but a seemingly random tangle of pinks, yellows, greens and blues that bloomed over every inch of it. The words “Coney Island, Brooklyn” were printed in a flowing script across the front. Sif nodded. “Thank you,” she said. “It is very… Colorful.”
“I love tie-dye,” Darcy said, tucking her mittened hands back into her pockets. “Groovy.”
For those who wanted to have the Prompt fics in one place, I’m going to be compiling at least the shorter ones into one larger “one fic per chapter” work on AO3 and adding a few every couple of days until they’re all backed up. 8)