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itswalky:

A question to the ladies who follow me:
So there’s this girl Transformer Arcee.  She’s a Warrior.  That’s her function, and it’s basically what she does.  She runs around and shoots things and gets to go on adventures.  But in the subsequent series produced exclusively overseas for an overseas audience, it was decided her function was now “computer operator” (or something like that loosely translated), and now she stayed home at base and never fought any battles and instead delivered letters and hung off Chromedome’s arm all the time.  
Is this caption which ridicules that conspicuous role change “femmephobic”?  The reason given for this condemnation is that it allegedly casts a female role (ie, “secretary”) as inferior to a classically male role of “warrior.”  Thus: femmephobia.  And while I agree that we shouldn’t be doing that, I don’t think the caption does that.  I think the caption ridicules the forced change of a female warrior into a more “traditional female role” rather than the vocation of deskwork.   
But I am a dude.  If I understand anything about sexism, it’s from listening to others who actually experience it, and this is a conversation between me and a female person.  Since this is a single female person, I don’t know for sure if this is me being ignorant or me talking with someone who is incorrect.  
And so I want input from other ladies.  Please only respond if you are a lady!  If you respond, I will assume you are a lady.  

The issue, I believe, is representation.  When you take a cast of dozens of characters, and only one or two are female, then those representations are important.  When a change of this nature is made with no explanation and for no ‘reason,’ then the assumption must be made that the character was changed solely to fit traditional gender roles.
Now, if she’d gotten a meaty storyline about being injured in a battle, and struggling to take this new task as a way she could still support her people and her cause, that would be awesome.  But that’s not what happened, was it? 8)
The caption made me giggle.  It seemed a dig not at the role itself, but at the sudden and inexplicable change.

itswalky:

A question to the ladies who follow me:

So there’s this girl Transformer Arcee.  She’s a Warrior.  That’s her function, and it’s basically what she does.  She runs around and shoots things and gets to go on adventures.  But in the subsequent series produced exclusively overseas for an overseas audience, it was decided her function was now “computer operator” (or something like that loosely translated), and now she stayed home at base and never fought any battles and instead delivered letters and hung off Chromedome’s arm all the time.  

Is this caption which ridicules that conspicuous role change “femmephobic”?  The reason given for this condemnation is that it allegedly casts a female role (ie, “secretary”) as inferior to a classically male role of “warrior.”  Thus: femmephobia.  And while I agree that we shouldn’t be doing that, I don’t think the caption does that.  I think the caption ridicules the forced change of a female warrior into a more “traditional female role” rather than the vocation of deskwork.   

But I am a dude.  If I understand anything about sexism, it’s from listening to others who actually experience it, and this is a conversation between me and a female person.  Since this is a single female person, I don’t know for sure if this is me being ignorant or me talking with someone who is incorrect.  

And so I want input from other ladies.  Please only respond if you are a lady!  If you respond, I will assume you are a lady.  

The issue, I believe, is representation.  When you take a cast of dozens of characters, and only one or two are female, then those representations are important.  When a change of this nature is made with no explanation and for no ‘reason,’ then the assumption must be made that the character was changed solely to fit traditional gender roles.

Now, if she’d gotten a meaty storyline about being injured in a battle, and struggling to take this new task as a way she could still support her people and her cause, that would be awesome.  But that’s not what happened, was it? 8)

The caption made me giggle.  It seemed a dig not at the role itself, but at the sudden and inexplicable change.

  1. yoshimars said: Nah, I think it’s fine. I see it as you intended, a female warrior being regulated into a “more traditional female role”. Two cents from a non-transformers fan (never really got into it, so indifferent to it) who is also a lady.
  2. heroineaddict-junkie reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Firstly, thanks for asking for my opinion. And good job for considering all points of view and that you might be wrong...
  3. thatdameinthesuit reblogged this from decepticonsensual
  4. decepticonsensual reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Lady, and Transformers fan, here. :) I tend to agree with you that the caption isn’t sexist, because of the context. I...
  5. tardisdelorean reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Actually, I’d like to get in on this. Discuss.
  6. texasuberalles reblogged this from itswalky
  7. everbright-mourning reblogged this from scifigrl47
  8. stormrunner1981 reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    The caption is perfect because it is saying “Hey me - this is all I do now”. I wouldn’t say it is gender specific since...
  9. castillon02 reblogged this from scifigrl47
  10. shrillcollectivemyth said: I wouldn’t say the caption is femmephobic. There’s nothing wrong with secretaries, or people who chose to be secretaries, but this is a robot built for kicking ass. She should not work behind a desk unless she wants to.
  11. opheliaisdead reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    having read the caption first, without any understanding of the series, I assumed that the caption was mocking the...
  12. pluckyredhead reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Women aren’t a monolith, so some will find this offensive and others won’t and that’s just the way things are. Getting a...
  13. lightningspiral reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    CAN I JUST REMARK ON HOW THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I LOVE DAVID WILLIS.
  14. batneko reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Changing a warrior to a secretary is pretty sexist in this context, yeah. You know the dudes wouldn’t like it if that...
  15. pandapattyparty said: i honestly don’t think it’s offensive for you to think Arcee’s transition from warrior to “secretary” is just traditional lady work, but i’m sure there are others who would disagree entirely. it’s kind of demeaning going from warrior to office work.
  16. liara-shadowsong reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    If I were to apply for a scientific research position, and be told that they can offer me a clerical position but not...
  17. thenoirguy reblogged this from itswalky
  18. jaydeis reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Man, I’ve got thoughts and opinions on this stuff like you wouldn’t know. Okay, so first off, I’d say that single female...
  19. inquisitoralastair reblogged this from neoyi
  20. schizo-fractured reblogged this from scifigrl47
  21. jaydeis said: Okay you know what, I’m going to reblog and write a longer response, because I have thoughts and opinions and what have you.
  22. neoyi reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    I didn’t get the whole “Secretary-is-inferior-to-fighting” vibe from the caption. I figured out right away that it’s a...
  23. wednesday reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    I don’t find that line to be anything more than a lampshading of the issues with Arcee’s diminished role in Headmasters....
  24. bethanythemartian said: It does seem to me like she is personally upset that she’s being forced into a feminine role, and not that the caption itself is femmephobic. If that helps.
  25. kaelio said: I think it’s fair to point out that they recast a female warrior into a “safer” profession. And I don’t mean safe for her.
  26. sirparadox reblogged this from itswalky
  27. flikky reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    Huh. Y’know this is something I’ve struggled with over the past few years, the idea that anything traditionally “girly”...
  28. sugarbeta said: I have to second middlemuse. There’s nothing wrong with admin work, but there is definitely something wrong with the (almost certainly male) show-runners deciding to take one of the only female characters completely out of the action.
  29. objectorbit reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    It isn’t sexist towards women in the least. It’s mocking the subservient role she was cast in upon being used in a...
  30. trixter reblogged this from itswalky and added:
    As A Lady, I really sympathize with the feeling expressed by this. The faux-quote caption just shows frustration with...
  31. kdangerinspace said: Yeah, no, it definitely is just a crack at the character’s downgrade.
  32. lauretteob said: Also: by calling it a “female role” and warrior a “male role” is sexist in its own right, it’s not saying “oh being in a female role sucks” it’s saying “being left out of the action sucks”